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# #laguna — 2025-12-23
**08:02 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766505759777839):** know if i can go online?
**08:07 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506022724139):** Yep go for it
**08:07 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506048360559):** how well do you know the changes? I there is an old tag that represented flow demand for each train and im not seeing that in the new program
**08:10 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506238867729):** Monty is online as well but he thinks it should be ok.
**08:11 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506264329569):** I have no idea what they've changed.
**08:11 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506296457789):** ok.
**08:11 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506312162579):** im not online yet. im just looking up tagnames at the moment.. offline
**08:11 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506318813309):** i am on with RDS tho
**08:12 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506358262609):** Copy
**08:14 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506449720469):** Jerry asked if we are working on the SCADA screens for UF. Guessing he is anxious to have them working
**08:14 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506466302019):** diligently
**08:14 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506489039819):** Thank you!
**08:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506556215819):** not a small job though. it might be worth asking if there is anything he would like to prioritize
**08:16 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506569636639):** I was just thinking about that
**08:17 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506667464329):**
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**08:17 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766506676616189):** they did use a migration tool from the SLC
**08:35 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507718273099):**
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**08:35 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507726273439):** i think FIT-3800 and FIT-7620 are the same
**08:35 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507734265359):** similar situation to the levels upstream
**08:35 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507749053679):** any more insight on that?
**08:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507767506029):** FIT-7620 in the UF plc is expecting data over comm
**08:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507773638599):** but no indication on where/what
**08:39 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766507976859149):** FIT-3800 is the actual flow from the pumps. So it makes sense that 7620 is the feedback to FIC-7620 which sets the flow rate for the feed pumps
**08:40 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508002392739):** Jerry says whatever works best for your workflow is fine as far as priority
**08:40 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508014160179):** ok.. i'll just keep plugging away
**08:40 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508020558209):** FIT-7620=FIT3800?
**08:40 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508058087559):** let me see if there is anything in the PID, but I'm gonna say yes
**08:41 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508063637299):** k
**08:41 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508103718889):** was the 7620 tag already in scada, or is that a new tag from UF?
**08:42 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508147934659):** there is nothing in the PID for either
**08:43 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508187976549):** i dont remember. it exists now, but no old references only linked to the empty tag in the UF plc.
**08:43 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508207277689):** it was either a tag that already existed and i updated the SLC address to the UF tagname
**08:43 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508215649459):** or i made a new tag and used the new UF tagname
**08:43 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508238142039):** logic makes it look like its the same as FIT-3800
**08:44 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508255855049):** i'll go with my gut if someone feels otherwise it will likely be brought to our attention?
**08:44 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508274419569):** yes, and we can make note of it and ask Jerry to verify
**08:44 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508278747959):** copy
**08:47 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508445959699):**
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**08:47 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508462371029):** another thing
**08:47 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508475756009):** the same value coming in over comm gets written to FIT-7000 as well
**08:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508491229849):** so FIT-3800=FIT-7000=FIT-7620?
**08:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766508495176739):** not sure whatsup with that
**09:04 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766509442226259):**
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**09:04 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766509447748709):** ok feed pump page is looking pretty good i think
**09:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766509502486029):** i can see them starting and stopping the pumps.. and all kinds of alarms and shutdowns.. i assume they're testing/dialing it in?
**09:19 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510364573949):** I would assume so. This process has lots of action, so lots of pump on and off, valves opening and closing, very dynamic
**09:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510401548179):** thats true. it looks like its shutting down on alarms.. but i probably dont understand all thats going on
**09:20 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510420683419):** it could be
**09:20 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510451425419):** it's a fickle process. the tanks operate in about a 12" span
**09:21 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510488227169):** is this an MBR system like we at Daou Mnt/MFN/HFW, etc?
**09:22 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510525722499):** it is similiar.
**09:22 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510543449229):** it's a membrane filter
**09:22 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766510573878819):** but it shares a lot of the same operating techniques as an MBR, since the MBR is part membrane filter
**09:32 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511164957539):** have a minute to help me investigate something?
**09:32 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511167121439):** or maybe you know
**09:32 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511175956929):** yep
**09:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511194233689):**
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**09:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511197064199):** maybe its on the PID
**09:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511203505609):** the valve coming in from "treated water"
**09:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511225791859):** tagname is FV-3470
**09:33 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511226105459):** looking
**09:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511238520769):** but its linked to a scada tag called FV-3470-OOS
**09:33 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511238653979):** oh, what is your question about it
**09:34 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511245067109):** and seems to be disabled on scada
**09:34 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511251128489):** there ARE tags in the new PLC for it
**09:34 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511264539739):** wth is OOS?
**09:34 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511270572129):** not in the UF plc
**09:35 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511308317569):**
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**09:36 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511377375799):**
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**09:36 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511384067629):** red line
**09:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511405114129):** ok.. seems to be in service
**09:37 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511431055319):** yeah just show open or closed
**09:37 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511439020919):** ok
**09:37 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766511439043319):** there is plc command for it
**11:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516406860089):**
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**11:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516410513719):** took a bit to get the valve objects figured out
**11:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516419846289):** but i have Open/Close and control valves mapped
**11:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516440411159):**
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**11:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516443438109):** with manual/auto controls
**11:01 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516483984469):** now that i look at that, i need to figure out how to display the tagname above the valve
**11:01 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766516489457179):** but good progress
**11:16 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517397219979):** what are the exact tags we are looking at to start the feed pumps
**11:17 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517433346499):** What do you mean?
**11:17 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517457069029):** the pump is apparently running when the feed valves are closed
**11:17 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517474138549):** Monty is asking what the tag/s are we are looking at
**11:18 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517483589919):** Ok. Let me take a look
**11:21 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517661216759):** Monty says there is a bit for feed water control in the UF PLC.
**11:21 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517691083229):** We were talking about using the valve call commands, but I said we need to make sure a valve is actually open before running the pumps
**11:21 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517702515159):** I don't remember were we left it
**11:25 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517930678279):** i dont think thats how it was programmed but we can make the change
**11:25 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517933237539):** let me gather more info
**11:25 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766517950778619):** copy
**11:32 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766518363425219):** got disconnected from the servers.. having a hard time reconnecting
**11:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766518397172169):** i can ping them
**11:37 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766518643441109):** that's not good
**11:37 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766518675656249):** not convenient...
**11:37 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766518678263039):** working on it
**11:53 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519612635739):** ugh.. no good
**11:53 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519616580339):** im not able to connect
**11:54 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519648871959):** they ping just fine
**11:54 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519655702899):** so VPN and network are ok
**11:55 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519746470809):** you rebooted everything on your end?
**11:56 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519762360149):** yes. rebooted my machine.. new VPN connection.
**11:56 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519801125539):** any idea what is broken?
**11:57 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519875613559):** > this is what AI thinks: RDP is authenticating, but the session crashes during shell or graphics initialization. Network and VPN are fine. Likely a stuck RDP session or Hyper-V graphics / enhanced session issue. Needs a console login or RDP graphics reset.
**11:58 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519908494399):** my tools are limited because of how locked down the access is
**11:59 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519943805629):** can you connect to one of the client machines?
**11:59 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519952314479):** i dont think so
**11:59 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766519969433339):** i cant ping anything other than the EWS and SCADA machines
**12:00 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520025593589):** I saw some vnc options I think
**12:01 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520077990679):** do you want to try a reboot of the vpn appliance?
**12:01 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520085822239):** i dont think its the VPN
**12:01 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520110294099):** i think a reboot of the VM or clearing the RDP session might help.
**12:04 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520255629039):** I'm having them reboot the vpn appliance for grins. wanna log out?
**12:04 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520279910839):** ok
**12:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520337645139):**
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**12:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520344485129):** i dont know what a ping looked like before.. but a few drop outs
**12:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520356684199):** i dont think this would cause the behavior im seeing though.
**12:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520366078689):** VPN reboot couldnt hurt
**12:06 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520383451949):** yeah lets start with that. I will go down if that doesn't fix it
**12:06 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520391198229):** I assume that's the next step
**12:07 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520428125989):** or talk someone through restarting the VMs maybe?
**12:08 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520510455099):** we have admin access right?
**12:08 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520524437799):** i think so
**12:08 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520537595789):** he's rebooting now
**12:09 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520550069999):** the vpn?
**12:09 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520595216439):** yes
**12:11 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520670106869):** ok power cycle complete
**12:11 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520677463579):** fingers crossed
**12:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520732905199):** no go
**12:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520734666229):**
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**12:13 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520782344139):** ok. I'll head down
**12:13 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520794700949):** i'll keep researching and trying things
**12:13 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766520802287459):** this is inconvenient
**12:18 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766521127809109):** wonder if we can put RUT or some sort of backdoor to this VPN nonsense.. maybe on a machine that could give us access to the host
**12:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766522318722549):** i was able to connect to the client workstation in the blower room and from there RDP over to the host
**12:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766522331568289):** i can restart the EWS VM...
**12:39 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766522348171259):** i will let you know if that helps
**12:45 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766522708008009):** Copy
**12:45 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766522725323009):** it didnt help. this is weird
**13:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766523921608289):** wtf, this is the weirdest thing. if i use my hotspot it works.. if i use the wifi here it will not connect to only CERTAIN machines
**13:11 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766524279792079):** Interesting
**13:12 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766524336512179):** So back to the pump control issue then?
**13:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766524340927849):** yes
**13:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525056704149):** so im gonna drop some stuff here so we can talk this out
**13:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525059916909):**
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**13:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525079052789):** it looks like the OpenCalls are being used here.. (this is in the RDS plc)
**13:25 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525102724739):**
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**13:25 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525118420769):** the open call comes from this in the UF plc.. which looks like the output.. let me see what thats tied to
**13:28 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525323576919):**
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**13:29 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525356075739):** hm.. need to look into this
**13:30 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525433454679):** but even that is looking at the output commad to the valve.. not feedback
**13:32 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525520273399):** i feel like this needs to be updated to look at the valve feedback position instead of the output command and then msg that status bit over.
**13:32 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766525530429539):** can you make sure that they are not online? i need to make changes to the UF plc
**13:44 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526288145839):** Ok
**13:46 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526400773429):** also, tried using the wifi again and cant connect to the EWS. so weird. works on the hotspot
**13:54 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526842499519):** No answer from him
**13:54 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526864724799):** i made the change and went offline again
**13:54 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526872256549):**
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**13:54 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526893332239):** changed from the opencall to an actual open status being sent for a permissive
**13:55 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766526958341579):** Ok
**14:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527500985929):** i think there is a reason they used the open call instead of open status
**14:05 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527540117019):** maybe
**14:09 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527743316809):** Doesn't make sense to me
**14:11 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527878347709):** i think you're right.. i was starting to think that maybe the valve isnt commanded to reach a position until there is flow or something.. so the open call would make the pump run and the valve responds afterwards to the pump running
**14:11 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527883704449):** but that doesnt quite make sense either
**14:11 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527893834559):** whats going on over there. what can i do
**14:13 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766527986343649):** I think they may have wrapped up for the week but I don't know
**14:13 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766528007684049):** Are the pumps working appropriately?
**14:13 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766528012353179):** i dont know
**14:13 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766528021592289):** was hoping someone was there to tell us
**14:16 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08JS6KDLBD/p1766528166133439):** Let me check with Jerry