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# #tough-smr — 2025-05-31
**08:35 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748705704204929):** Im connected this morning, im going to import the valve AOI and ignition views and try to get that all linked up
**08:47 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748706473444599):** Everything looks good that I’m reviewing between you guys
**08:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748706484967349):** its feeling good
**08:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748706490559899):** we're getting there
**08:54 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748706879263379):** Are there any questions for me that I missed
**09:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748707222104379):** not that i can think of. if you want to install the signl4 app on your phone. you can stay aware of any alarms that pop up here at SMR.. i find it useful while commissioning to get the process dialed in before handing it off.
**09:00 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748707232114029):** it would also help me test the concept of using it as an alarm agent
**09:17 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708230571169):** Sounds great, I planned on doing that with the Sensaphone so I’m down to test sig out
**09:23 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708630721129):** I downloaded the app the other day I’m all strip
**09:23 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708632701899):** Setup
**09:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708672585229):** ok, cool. i still need to set up the alarm pipeline and the scripting in ignition.
**09:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708686745809):** let me fire of a test alert to see if it shows up to your phone
**09:28 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708932574729):**
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**09:29 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748708996283029):** for teams of operators i like that it shows who acknowledged it.. (they are claiming responsibility for taking action on the alarm or notifying the right person) - this would have been nice in the oilfield
**09:40 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709656283959):** I’ll try to pop in but I don’t usually work nights and weekends, I got family time, a kids party this afternoon etc. I realize that’s when you’re available but I’ll try to check in when I can.
**09:41 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709686859229):** I would like this for Monterey County, as I understand it
**09:41 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709694140719):** no problem. i'll do what i can
**09:41 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709701776469):** Does it acknowledge ignition too?
**09:42 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709731175069):** i believe its possible, but would require a little scripting
**09:42 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709758885439):** also considering building a custom ignition module that handles all this and makes it simple to integrate
**09:45 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709922314209):** That’s a dealbreaker for me for my current applications, operators hate acking in two places
**09:45 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709929829029):** I would pay for that though
**09:45 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709946288249):** i had a business idea to build this as a service.. but 99% of what i was thinking exists in this app
**09:46 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709971437609):** I’ve never integrated twilio so i can’t compare but that’s how I’ve heard alarming done that’s more supported with ignition
**09:46 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748709991617159):** yeah... twillio is not ideal in my mind for a few reasons.
**09:46 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710018604619):** I couldn’t get twilio to work so I use the sms function in ignition but it requires cell gateway and that’s been problematic in the past
**09:47 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710028569779):** Which reasons
**09:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710087934859):** i dont think text is the best method for plant alarms.. its not bad.. but can be ignored/muted.. people use text for other things other than alarms..
**09:48 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710104880069):** It escalates to phone call
**09:48 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710110654929):** If no ack by 1 minute
**09:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710118897129):** that helps.
**09:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710129523569):** this signl4 product also escalates to text.. and then phone call.
**09:48 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710134361529):** ive tested that to my phone it works great
**09:48 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710135990609):** But I have a bunch of performance issues with the phone call gateway method
**09:49 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710147395259):** That’s huge, lead with that shit lol
**09:49 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710148642399):** and is dead simple.. i didnt have to do anything other than put in a phone number
**09:49 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710171697509):** and persistant notifications on the phone if desired..
**09:49 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710185141419):** if unacknowledged.. keep popping up and making a noise until it gets attention
**09:49 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710186601539):** Monterey county doesn’t have a phone line or a text gateway, so this would be great
**09:50 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710208708399):** it seems to work great! i just need to figure out the two-way thing so an ACK can ack on igntion as well.
**09:50 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710216172829):** i'll play with that in my "free" time
**09:51 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710295446589):** if you verify your phone number in the app i can set you up for text and calls as well.. (for testing purposes) we can turn it off when it gets annoying
**09:51 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710319876679):** Would the roster be handled by signl instead of ignition or can you access the roster?
**09:52 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710332562199):** can be done either way.. or a combo
**09:52 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710367447569):** if i really wanted to get crazy i could have a gateway script read the ignition roster and update the schedule in signl4 over api calls.
**09:53 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710385069319):** or just have one or the other handle it
**09:53 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710391440399):** Wow yeah
**09:56 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710610250149):** I know what kevins thinking. this relies on the internet being up in order to deliver alarms.
**09:58 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748710684862609):** maybe some sort of backup system could alert in case of internet down.
**10:59 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714366205119):** kevins part of the signl team!
**10:59 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714395836119):** you're on android right? let me know if you have any problems downloading the app.. i imagine it works the same once its installed on your phone
**11:02 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714526100529):** Downloaded and connected. Looks pretty nice. How does it interface with SCADA?
**11:02 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714548733219):** very flexible.. any way we want it to.
**11:02 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714557971049):** i added an event to a button to test initially.
**11:02 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714563574379):** but it can be used in an alarm pipeline
**11:06 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714760560129):** Wondering if we can set this up for Buellton
**11:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714769822789):** buellton came to mind actually
**11:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714781536389):** no need for SMTP servers.. no need for email addresses.. no limits to worry about
**11:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714783686499):** and way more features
**11:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714803206549):** did you get the test alarm on your phone?
**11:07 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714834418229):** Yeah. I was letting go to see how that worked.
**11:07 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714850405019):** ok cool. yeah'
**11:07 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714854641679):** check it out.
**11:09 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748714993854369):** if you verify your phone number it will escalate to text and voice.
**11:10 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715007450239):** i have it pretty agressive right now.. i think it reminds us every 60 seconds if not acknowledged
**11:11 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715090771989):** It's got great alert tones!
**11:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715137232339):** if someone has a few unread texts.. and they miss an SMS popup.. it could get lost in "unread texts". i like that this is unique.. you know that noise and that icon is an alarm
**11:14 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715294346829):** it finally just called me..i acknowledged it
**11:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715335351279):**
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**11:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715338854779):** Also got a text
**11:16 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715400238289):** This is nice. It keeps alerting unlike a text
**11:17 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715421728119):** yes. that was an important feature that i also like
**11:17 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715470392229):** You can go ahead and try to make this work for Buellton. Asap
**11:18 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715524065509):** less familiar with geoscada.. (clearscada?) but i can look into it
**11:18 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715532733409):** I know
**11:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715550928959):** i guess right now they cant ack. from email right?
**11:19 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715559466959):** Right
**11:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715561371239):** so two way communication with this setup wouldnt be a deal breaker?
**11:19 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715566616539):** No
**11:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715577360199):** they get notified.. and log in to check out the alarm.. and then acknowledge there
**11:19 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715584367159):** Yes
**11:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715584665209):** ok.. i have ideas.
**11:19 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715597002119):** Geo has OPC
**11:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715604487379):** another thing i really like is i got both of you guys linked up without any special instructions...
**11:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715611111619):** i didnt need your phones or do anything crazy
**11:20 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715615813239):** It would be so limiting for the product it would be worth the effort I believe
**11:21 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715665698899):** That’s a big deal, I was almost trying to be dumb and not try very hard and see if I could do it. Not sure of that makes sense. And I think I did set it up correctly. High five
**11:21 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715693644509):** totally agree. i wasnt sure how it was going to go either.
**11:22 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715750150589):** Did you know it plots your location on a map when you ack?
**11:23 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715804037709):** Are you in Carpenteria?
**11:25 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715923506239):** that was intentional. and an option
**11:25 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715928767849):** I am,.
**11:26 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715963017369):** This thing is loaded with cool features
**11:26 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748715975110619):** right! i like it. and the interface is clean
**11:26 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716010684909):**
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**11:26 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716015119129):** i see that you verfied your phone number.. you're set up for text and calls now
**11:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716424042349):**
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**11:33 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716438352409):** @andy took some work, but i got the valve AOI and ignition stuff lined up.
**11:34 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716457600179):** @Kevin we will have to test statuses from the cla-val similar to how we did the grundfos pumps
**11:34 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716490120139):** Copy
**11:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716583254639):** also FYI
**11:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716584907699):**
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**11:37 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748716637994739):** for calls/texts/and persistant notifications it takes an upgrade from the free version
**11:56 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748717774852459):** So many great features wow
**11:57 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748717828375269):** I’m always down to pay for a service if it does the job.
**11:57 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748717866577529):** i appreaciate that there is a free tier.. we could proof of concept with free. and then upgrade to get some of the additional features if necessary
**11:58 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08NFJSU753/p1748717884038289):** Yeah you have to