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# #ccsd-water-ignition — 2025-12-16
**07:04 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765897459089149):** good morning.. no more trains today.. i can focus.
**07:04 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765897488371539):** @andy will you be available to confirm some IO values for me from the opto sites? to make sure i am scaling/converting correctly?
**08:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765901715247459):**
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**08:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765901735708679):**
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**08:26 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902405357169):** I'll look hang on
**08:28 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902511513969):** I’m showing 19.6 at the moment
**08:28 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902536502739):** i have an idea for scaling. standby
**08:29 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902542541209):** I think it's eight
**08:29 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902544850039):** Right
**08:29 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902552124039):** It's moved since your screenshot
**08:29 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902552262669):** also it seems we lost that auto input.. do you think thats true?
**08:29 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902582540319):** it has moved. im cleaning things up.. look at the float array. its the 32bit converted value
**08:29 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902586046249):** standby. let me try something
**08:30 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902624854179):** Today is a startup day for VFDs for SST so I'm not able to be fully available but let me see
**08:32 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902738951579):** Auto input is still SCADA AUTO
**08:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765902969284199):** ok, yeah i missed that in your message. so it looks like the scaled value comes through
**08:36 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903011015819):**
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**08:37 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903028102679):** Same
**08:37 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903038398279):** 19.094
**08:37 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903053770369):** sweet!
**08:37 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903057638869):** Same ish…
**08:37 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903064614989):** yeah. its moving faster than i expected for a level
**08:37 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903074262459):** Not sure why you would be that close and they are not exact
**08:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903083052799):** its moving pretty fast
**08:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903097566059):** 19.04749
**08:38 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903100469929):** Do you have pac manager installed on your machine
**08:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903104751279):** well its pretty steady at the moment actually
**08:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903113797959):** is that the software for viewing the live values?
**08:38 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903118530229):** let me check
**08:38 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903119233879):** Yeah
**08:40 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903241365579):**
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**08:41 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903266116069):** just add the controller IP address and you can view digital and analog values
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**08:41 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903285909129):** yep
**08:41 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903287095999):** got it
**08:41 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903287820859):**
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**08:41 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903298878569):** it will slow us down significantly to have me do this for you.
**08:41 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903308217039):** thanks for letting me know which software it is
**08:42 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903337429069):** You can also log into their scada here:
http://192.168.102.176:8088/data/perspective/client/CCSD_SCADA
**08:42 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903360866819):** if you know which value you are looking at it's easier to see statuses
**08:43 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903385087859):** can you test your login real quick for that SCADA project?
**08:44 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903488381669):** yeah
**08:45 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903530848099):** yes.. login works
**08:45 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765903540142229):** Sweet
**09:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765904803186419):** got the DIs straightened out. want me to start linking these to pax instances as i go?
**09:07 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765904864903049):** yeah, do you feel like you have that resource correlating the two?
**09:10 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905027507059):** i think so.. i'll give it a go
**09:14 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905267403639):** I see "Stuart Floats" array, I want to make sure we organize the data matching the location numbers
**09:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905323912939):** well, we need a temporary holding place to convert the 16 bit registers into 32bit floats
**09:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905341147119):** the 32bit float will get fed into the pax objects as input values
**09:15 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905353129259):** unless you have a cleaner idea
**09:16 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905374964099):** i could do multiple COP instructions to move the 2 words into the inputs of each pax object
**09:17 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905474590979):** Can you name the arrays referencing this list from the google sheet;
**09:18 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905491058529):** so maybe RTU1100_Floats
**09:18 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905493756359):** oh ok yeah.
**09:18 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905498261419):** absolutely
**09:18 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905513334949):** or ft_RTU1100, for float table, that's one way ive done it in the past
**09:18 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905528210109):** sounds good.. i like it
**09:18 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905534881759):** you don't need a temp array for DI's right? they can come straight off the modbus data
**09:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905540600229):** correct
**09:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905640969639):** suggestions for naming the routine that handle the modbus data? conversions and mapping and things?
**09:20 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905649115529):** great, can you do one set at let me get eyes on it
**09:21 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905660898319):** yep
**09:22 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905747285439):** slack for desktop doesn't update messages, I have to click on the channel to force an update
**09:22 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905758592789):** boo
**09:23 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905818502239):** really?? there should be something we can do about that.. mine certainly updates and notifies me from my PC
**09:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905850607849):**
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**09:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765905866323519):** so here is how the analog level object will look
**09:27 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765906023103809):** i have a little work to do to bring in the DI cards after the analog cards in an organized way.
**09:28 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765906094211789):** i'll keep you posted here.. i dont think i'll need much from you today, i should have plenty to run with
**09:51 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765907514386469):** hm.. @Kevin @andy cards 6, 7, 8 are DI cards at stuart.. the "issue" is all of those values are currently 0.. which makes it difficult to know if im grabbing the right register range.
**09:52 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765907520194059):** any ideas?
**09:52 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765907546863309):** card 5 is an analog, but im not exactly clear on how many int registers it fully uses before card 6 starts.
**09:53 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765907590486309):** there are other RTUs that have more active DI's maybe start with those
**09:53 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765907604090989):** then you'll have more confidence with empty cards
**09:53 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765907611701269):** ok yeah good idea.. i'll connect to a few other sites and see if i can find some 1's
**10:06 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908409672749):** well. every site has different cards and in a different order. i think this is going to be guess work until we can verify the IO at each site. Im not sure how to be confident in what im mapping right now. or if we verify at one site that an AI card uses (8) 16 bit registers and the following DI card starts at the next modbus address and 16 bit register. we could then possibly use that information to be more confident at the rest of the sites.
**10:07 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908436915189):** let me keep digging
**10:07 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908478592769):** You have IO configs for every site with the OTG files
**10:08 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908486825259):** yep. thats what im looking at
**10:08 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908496566369):** but we need to figure out the modbus addresses
**10:08 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908538539209):** how can i help you verify
**10:09 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908544054769):** my head is in another process
**10:09 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908573886109):** we can discuss later if you are busy. with someone onsite we could figure it out
**10:09 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908575377299):** some RTUs have consecutive active analogs
**10:09 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908580835929):** unless i can force values from the pAC manager
**10:10 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908614184149):** I'm on site I just can't run around to each site but what would that do? Hook up a simulator to check?
**10:10 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908631110659):** if we set card 6 di0 to high (jumper or whatever)
**10:10 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908639083439):** sure
**10:10 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908639596269):** i can see that come in and know where the DI card starts AFTER an analog
**10:11 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908660573359):** I get that. OK so can you proceed with analogs for now?
**10:11 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908676058049):** then DI's will be confirmed this way on site?
**10:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908720831709):** i think analogs are easy to identify as long as there is a live value to compare like we did with the tank level.
**10:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908734040849):** let me do as much as i can while you're busy
**10:12 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765908774948219):** maybe i can stil figure this out.. if i identify an analog value and find an active DI downstream in the chassis
**10:52 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765911160662859):** Maybe we plan a day or two to go onsite and concentrate on just this.
**10:53 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765911216361469):** one day we could knock it all out
**10:53 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765911221530899):** i think
**10:54 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765911259819279):** Kevin is that a you thing or one of your guys or what are you thinking? I'm not sure me doing it is something I can pull away from the SST job
**10:54 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765911262335599):** im reading in SSWF well 2.. there is some digitals after analogs.. it could help me figure some more out
**10:54 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765911282284029):** I can confirm specific questions if you need
**11:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912767225809):**
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**11:19 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912779234749):** got all these mapped out.. that feels good.. moving onto the analog card now.
**11:19 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912789407989):** awesome
**11:19 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912795305579):** looks good!
**11:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912811927619):** yes.. and verified with the Pac manager
**11:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912816998239):** we're getting there.
**11:20 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765912817939559):** we got this
**12:13 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765915986369349):**
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**12:13 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765916008528369):** :muscle:
**12:24 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765916682364609):**
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**14:16 [andy](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765923384831879):** woohoo!
**15:23 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765927381750269):** If we still need, I can go on site to assist.
**15:23 [Mason Radke](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765927417163529):** I think I'll get as far as I can and start a list of things I just can't verify with certainty
**15:24 [Kevin](https://slack.com/archives/C08TVA84PD4/p1765927448185999):** Alright